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Tuesday, 28 December 2010
how to tell a Liberal is LYING
Topic: Constitutional

Abercrombie is LYING. Know how I can tell? When a LIBERAL has nothing substantive to go on, but has an AGENDA to push, they ALWAYS resort to AD HOMINEM ATTACKS.

 Notice he doesnt say "lets clear the record" - he ATTACKS everyone else who is questioning the CONSTITUTIONALITY of Obamas election.

But, he has to attack others and LIE about them, claiming they have a politcal agenda. But what HES DOING IS NOT  A POLITICAL AGENDA?

And apparently hes going to ignore his own States LAWS in his agenda? 

Add HYPOCRISY to the charged.

Listen CAREFULLY to Manning:


Posted by Dave at 5:03 PM PST
Thursday, 23 December 2010
Topic: Constitutional



  Yes, its STUPIDITY to prosecute over 1/16th of an OUNCE.

 What this is is two things:

1 .) The JURY DID MEET and decide, they just did it outside of the PAY TO PLAY legal system.

2.) notice the "con" comments on the article are pro Govt and AD HOMINEM

3.) the paper is LYING with their title of "mutiny". The Jurors now should prosecute the paper for LIBEL.

 The papers writers are clearly biased.

Resist the urge to side with the State (Stockholm Syndrome), put away any pre-conceived notions you might have and look at the FACTS:

1.) he had a SIXTEENTH of an ounce.

2.)  they had been unable to prosecute and persecute him to their personal satisfactions, so they roll out RETALIATION.

The Jury has apparently had enough harassment and MONEY WASTING.

Who makes money here?

1.) Legislatures (make law$ for PROFIT)

2.) Police (make$ money enforcing these law$ 

3.) Courts (Judges make$ money holding trial$

4.) detention system (there is no rehabilitation, its warehou$ing for CA$H

5.) $ocial $ervice$ $ystem make$ dollar$ $tolen from taxpayer$..


No pro$ecution$, no PAYOUT$


Posted by Dave at 12:42 PM PST
Wednesday, 22 December 2010
Topic: General politics



Prosecute and execute them before they transgress into Jaywalking and daring to uphold the Constitution... 

Posted by Dave at 6:41 PM PST
Supposed "bug" in City Building
Topic: General politics

Bug found in ceiling my EYE:


The photo show a HEADPHONE SPEAKER, not a mic, nor part of a bug.

 Technology does exist to use a loud speaker as a mic, but not one of those little 4 ohm jobs, there's not enough impedance (a 4 ohm speaker is a dead short, more or less) and cone area to get that done. ESPECIALLY not in a ceiling with the horrendous elecrical noise flying around from lights and power cables. I tested a slightly larger version of that speaker on an expen$ive oscilloscope, the speaker could not detect my whistle beyond a foot.

Anyone with the technology to make a bug and hide it isnt going to use a speaker for a mic, especially after finding out that it wouldnt make any useful audio unless they shouted directly into it, let alone above a suspended ceiling. Anyone who is going to the trouble to hide it in the ceiling would test the unit first.

Just take any portable tape recorder and notice it wont pick up useful audio from more than a few inches away. Not a chance in a ceiling. 

Some construction workers old defunct Walkan? A hoax to put a speaker in the ceiling and play "find the strange noise"? Not a bug... 

 PS I wrote to the "Reporter" and explained clearly that this could NOT have been a bug, sent him test data from the oscilloscope test, see the story has been left floating as if its the truth.


Cover up everywhere.

Posted by Dave at 11:57 AM PST
Updated: Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:30 AM PST
Saturday, 18 December 2010
Topic: General politics



since the immediate issue is Obamas lack of Citizenship, it is obvious this is RETALIATION against Manning sending the FBI packing from his Church a few months ago. The Feds came to his Church to harass him and they left in a half hour. Im guessing he told them where to go and drew them  a map.

SO, for retaliation, they have to wait till hes on a Mil base. Some Commander needs to be arrested and fired for allowing this on his base. 

 Trespass, under law I know of (several States) is NOT ACTIONABLE UNLESS THE ONE REFUSES TO LEAVE WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE POLICE. Thats how it is in WA State.


  If they had to 'look at him very carefully, WHY NOT BEFORE LETTING HIM THROUGH THE GATES?



 "We will respond appropriately" hopfully means hell sue the f*** out of them. 





Posted by Dave at 1:44 PM PST
Friday, 3 December 2010
soapbox time- I TOLD YOU SO
Topic: General politics


Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time

"Federal law enforcement agencies have been tracking Americans in real-time using credit cards, loyalty cards and travel reservations without getting a court order, a new document released under a government sunshine request shows."

"Rewards cards" MY ASS.

Anyone still FOOL enough to not believe in the POLICE STATE?


And, the State of WA caught tracking credit card transactions to collect Sales Tax, I got second hand (reliable source) info that a TC resident bought an item in OR (no sales tax in OR for WA residents) on CC and the State sent him a bill for tax.


CORRUPTION eveywhere.

Posted by Dave at 9:59 PM PST
Updated: Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:32 AM PST
Tuesday, 30 November 2010
the Food Safety Crackpots are at it again (S 510)

Crackpots webpage:


OFFICIAL text of S 510 at the Senate website (a RELIABLE source, not some bunch of fringe crackpots):


Analysis? There is no point in attempting to analyse or discuss outright LIES as it only gives fuel to the liars. YOU use YOUR computer to look at each of their claims and compare them to the Bill text. USe the Browser search function Ctrl-F (or similar in Adobe) and search the Bills sections for their claims. I did. They are NOT there. 

This proposed Legislation affects food producing BUSINESSES who are more or less already regulated under Federal Law hoping to have enforcement authority in cases like the pet food contamination.

 This pack of lies, along with most fringe websites/claims are about discrediting people who are genuinely concerned about corrupt, runaway, unaccountable Government. This CRAP is deliberately planted to suck in innocent , uneducated people and pull them from a reasonable position off to the fringes, once there, they, and more importantly, their position, is discredited.

Take Oklahoma City for example. World renown US GOVERNMENT EXPERTS testified that the ANFO bomb could not have caused the column damage. Partin points out exactly where the shaped charges had to have been placed. He is a US MILITARY EXPERT on explosives.

Along come self proclaimed experts like this bunch in Canada making wild, unsubsantiated claims that ignorant people are quick to latch onto, deliberately creating false information to discredit the scrutiny against our Government. Since Partin et al are aligned on the same side, the attack is used to wholesale dismiss the entire 'government had a hand in it' argument. 

Heres a very simple bullshit detector thats extremely effective in telling who is lying and who isnt. Notice that on the crackpot page, wild claims are made, but WITHOUT PROOF, OR EVIDENCE, and with, more importantly, NO REFERENCES TO THE BILL they are pretending to critique.

Back to OKC. Two parties, one claims there were shaped demolition charges placed on the columns, the opposition says no such thing happened.  There are two problems here that show who cannot be trusted:

1.) Partin puts a PROOF to his statement, he is an explosives expert. Here are his claims:


the "opposition' never cite verifiable facts, figures etc (the website just above citing Partin shows analysis by the laws of PHYSICS, not opinion) and usually resort to ad hominem or red herring (personal attacks or evasiveness)

  I could not go to this website and attack Partin (pretending for a moment I wanted to discredit the 'govt had a hand in it' movement), I'd have to change the subject to "it couldnt have happened that way because no one was seen on security cameras planting charges on pillars" which is evasive because physical evidence proves the point charge in the van could not possibly have sharply sheared off reinforced concrete columns, and secondly is evasive because I cannot claim something did not happen and prove that statement. It is impossible to prove a negative. The problem with the 'con' side is that the only way to prove the charges had not been placed on columns would be to have security cameras on the columns inside the building and that is negated by the fact the Government would have access to them and could have turned them off or deleted the video.

2.) Partin (presumably) has no 'dog in the fight' (i.e. he has no meaningful connection to the OKC event, hes an interested bystander but thats about it). The Government, on the other hand, is KNOWN for lying through its teeth and if involved in the bombing has everything to hide. 

Posted by Dave at 10:34 AM PST
Updated: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:00 AM PST
Thursday, 25 November 2010
why ex mil shouldnt be cops
Topic: General politics

Ive been ranting about this especialyl on the newspaper sites, saying ex mil should not be police, because mil are trained to instictively kill anyone they oppose, and its the police job not to mow citizens down in the street, but to adhere to DUE PROCESS.

 My position is now vindicated. Unfortunately. Sometimes I hate being right..




Posted by Dave at 10:51 PM PST
The Inflation LIE
Topic: Economy, what's left of



" "A gauge linked to Wednesday's income and spending reported showed that inflation is running lower."

exactly, DEFLATION, no matter how the Fed lies about it.
We are in DEFLATION regardless of the spin. Were in Stag-deflation. values have declined because no one has money to spend, thus they MUST decline to attract buyers. PRICES have remained (elevated) at pre crash levels in a VAIN attempt to sell goods and services (which few can afford even at deflated price levels). Greedy or desperate sellers pretending that the worth of their goods and services is high DOES NOT establish VALUE. It establishes that they cannot SELL their G/S.

But if we admit that there is deflation, then CONgress, Obama and the Fed are utter idiots and incompetent, a fact we knew all along.

 These lies are vainy and desperately trying to sell the idea the economy is growing, when it isnt. The title is correct, "as income grows" but it makes a false impression of cause and effect.  Spending is up only because there wasnt any before, but that doesnt prove any economic gain, because <DUH> the economy IS NOT ALL SPENDING.

 That was the Model that led to the CRASH.

Posted by Dave at 9:04 AM PST
Wednesday, 17 November 2010
so why is TSA lying??
Topic: General politics

...except its NORMAL for the Fed to LIE.

 Our GIVERNMENT has highly advanced explosives scanners that were developed by PNNL and tested at the Pasco, WA airport. My Chem prof helped develop them. Best I recall, they used an air-tight booth that puffed air around to pick up minute traces of explosives.



that doesnt facilitate the FEDERAL TERORIST STATE. They cant make people AFRAID (terrorize them) by not doing intrusive searches and threats. Proving again, OUR GOVT ARE THE TERRORISTS, NOT ISLAM. 


PS Hanidays phone lines were so overloaded the number went down twice today, or more. I tried to call and got an out of service twice. 

Posted by Dave at 11:29 AM PST
Updated: Wednesday, 17 November 2010 3:07 PM PST
Saturday, 30 October 2010
about the supposed bombs- or real...
Topic: General politics


"a toner cartridge for a Hewlett Packard printer contained a hidden suspect device. The source said the bomb was "cleverly disguised" and a "substantial" device which contained explosives. It was wired with a mobile phone, most likely to act as a timer to detonate the device."

 The morons at the AP, as posted on Yahoo, claimed a "cell phone chip" which does not exist.

 A cell phone isnt much of a timer. Most have a timer function, but unless it has a tone output, its useless. More likely some operative would have called the phone when it landed, or called it from inside. IT would be much easier to get the stuff in the cargo hold instead of taking it in with a person. A person could easil y call from the passenger compartment to the cargo hold on any cell phone. Calling from the ground is impossible unless the plane is on the ground or not far above. The skin of an aircraft makes a darn good shield to radio frequency. Inside the cargo hold there are no windows for an outisde signal to 'shine' through which severely limits the range of reception.

 What to do? encase all cargo in solidly shielded containers that are RF- tight. That way outside signals cannot trigger anything. Then jam the contents. Real simple technology.A combination of shielding and jamming from inside makes the containers contents utterly blind and deaf to outside triggering.


"Obama said: "I've also directed that we spare no effort in investigating the origins of these suspicious packages and their connection to any additional terrorist plotting. Although we are still pursuing all the facts, we do know that the packages originated in Yemen. We also know that al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, a terrorist group based in Yemen,"

These morons couldnt find their asses with an anatomy book. Good thing we have reliable friends in the U.K.

Would we not have a MUSLIM SYMPHATHIZER IN THE WHITE HOUSE, we'd reduce Yemen to ashes then dare any other Nation who harbors terrosits to screw with us.

 But, thats not the UN Doctrine...


 And for the "Im not that stupid" photo:



Yeah, right , leave an oh-so dangerous plane parked near the TERMINAL, with lots of FUEL on board, will all these VEHICLES parked nearby?

 First thing Id do is TOW THE PLANE AWAY. See the cart they connected to provide power etc to the plane? Why connect it if we expect it to blow up?

 This appears to be a toner /ink cartridge with some white substance and wires. Look at the wires, they appear to be about 18 AWG, which proves the white mass is very small. Probably not enough to even damage the cargo container, but enough to make a bad scene in an office setting when the printer is powered up.





And this bullshit:

""As a precaution, DHS has taken a number of steps to enhance security," the Homeland Security Department said in a statement. "Some of these security measures will be visible while others will not.""

What, they havent ALREADY PUT THE SECURITY PROCEDURES IN PLACE? Did they just wake up to a bomb threat to airplanes?

Like I said above, good thing we have COMPETENT FRINEDS OVERSEAS because the US Govt couldnt (or refuses to) find its ass with both hands.

Posted by Dave at 9:50 AM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:06 AM PST
Wednesday, 27 October 2010
"Change' - a psycopaths doctine?
Topic: General politics

 recall what Obama ran on, and duped half a voting population on, and continues to suck them in on - "CHANGE"

 "Change" is a set of complex ideas reduced to a child-ish, over simplistic term.

 Has "change" ocurred? Yes, RIGHT DOWNHILL. Economy further in the crapper with massive, deliberate and destructive DEBT caused by CONgress with willing accomplice Obama.

Blaming it on the people. After all, didn't they "vote for change?" (blaming the victim)

  This might sound reasonable, based on the straw argument that it was unavoidable, except I didn't fall for it, and neither did much of America.

I simply went to the trouble to see what world leading economists (EXPERTS IN ECONOMICS) said on the topics of the economy, runaway spending, helicopter drops of money- and they agreed none of it would work.

I posted this here.

They told you so.

It didn't work in 1930. 

And now, for what Im aiming at- a psychopath for a President.

"Narcissistic" is not enough. Obama's destructive path for American Govt cannot be explained by narcissism, for even a narcissist, who places himself at the center of the universe, should also carry an instinct for self preservation, thus, the narcissist should try and arrange things to protect and preserve himself.

Obama and CONgress have not done so.

The catch is that they had MORE access to the expert economists that I, and the same ones as I. They DID know that the leading economists warned the economy was not recoverable regardlessof how much debt they created.

Destructive debt, for years to come. Nation wrecking debt for 3 generations to come, is the word from WA Congressional Candidate Williams at a mixer at the Holiday inn in Richland, WA. I was there. Williams has a business and economics background and doesnt make that statement lightly. Also realize that 3 generations is not  a couple years, its upwards of 100 YEARS

Read about the new (2006) developments in the study of psychopathy - Individuals incapable of feeling for others.

"So who are psychopaths? Broadly speaking, they are people who use manipulation, violence and intimidation to control others and satisfy selfish needs. They can be intelligent and highly charismatic, but display a chronic inability to feel guilt, remorse or anxiety about any of their actions."


We generally think of psychopaths as the famous killers who kill others with absolutely no remorse. Apparently the matter is not that simple.

But, if that (manipulative, controlling, without guilt, remorse...) isn't the current MO of Obamas Govt, what the hell is?

Here's a slightly humorous example of a test for psychopathy:


 There was a similar test in my College Psych class about a woman having an affair who was randomly murdered. I'm the only one who caught the 'jist' and answered correctly. Everyone but me answered that SHE was responsible for her own murder because she was having an affair. (blaming the victim)

And THESE morons are the future of the Nation? God can't even help us.

"People think (psychopaths) are just callous and without fear, but there is definitely something more going on,” Newman says."

"Callous" and "without fear" are also a result of  defense mechanisms. One might become de-sensitized to repeated abuse, for example, and become somewhat numb to it.

  I do not think thats Obamas angle, I truly believe he is a psychopath:

"But Newman has a different idea entirely. He believes that psychopathy is essentially a type of learning disability or “informational processing deficit” that makes individuals oblivious to the implications of their actions when focused on tasks that promise instant reward. Being focused on a short-term goal, Newman suggests, makes psychopathic individuals incapable of detecting surrounding cues such as another person’s discomfort or fear.

That, dear Reader, is the RELIGION OF CHANGE. CHANGE AT ANY COST. CHANGE AT THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Change while ignoring Voting laws. Change while destroying the economy for 3 generations, despite the facts that:

a.) the same Progressive policies that failed in the 1930s were used again  (definition of insanity - doing the same thing again expecting a different result)

b.) modern Economists warned it would fail

And that is EXACTLY what the Radical Left is up to.

More observations:

"Being focused on a short-term goal, Newman suggests, makes psychopathic individuals incapable of detecting surrounding cues such as another person’s discomfort or fear."

SOLELY focused on short term goals, in specific, solely looking at preserving Obama for Obamas sake by trying to claim victory by spending insane amounts  of money - thrown down a hole. Worse, if it were down a hole, someone might climb down after it, to get it. He and CONgress are spending for NO result.


"In a study he repeated in different prison populations, for instance, Newman examined how quickly psychopathic and non-psychopathic individuals respond to a series of mislabeled images, such as a drawing of a pig with the word “dog” superimposed on it."

Clearly, repeatedly unable (not unwilling) to recognize a CLEAR CONTRADICTION.

Posted by Dave at 1:04 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:27 AM PST
Sunday, 24 October 2010
the play is in motion - how the future economy will go - STORY BEING BURIED
Topic: Economy, what's left of


Danny Alexander reveals 500,000 job cuts in document gaffe

Half a million public sector workers are to lose their jobs as a result of the comprehensive review of government spending, official documents have disclosed.

Danny Alexander, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, unwittingly disclosed the full scale of the expected redundancies when he was photographed yesterday reading confidential briefing papers.

The documents showed that the independent Office for Budget Responsibility is likely to forecast 500,000 public sector workers will lose their jobs because of the cuts, the biggest in public spending since the Second World War.




City Hall shock as Treasury pulls plug on £480m development fund 22.10.10

Dozens of organisations and projects central to the capital's future are under threat today after the London Development Agency's £480 million budget was axed.

The surprise move leaves Boris Johnson having to make up the funding shortfall from Whitehall departments.

The move to fold the LDA, the Mayor's economic regeneration body, in-house to City Hall was widely expected. But the Standard has learnt that the Treasury has decided to go a step further and wipe out the LDA's huge annual budget over the next four years.



Cuts could cost billions for voluntary sector

Sunday, 24 October 2010

Government spending cuts could cost voluntary organisations billions of pounds, it was claimed today.

Dame Suzi Leather, the chair of the Charity Commission, said cutting funding to charities that were providing key public services would be short sighted.



ANAL-YSIS (creative writing day at Second Amendment blog)

 What happens in the UK happens first. The Nation and its Govt are the oldest in "our" world (we came from there, Englahd has ruled or influenced much of the world) If you want to invoke the Divine Right of Kings or other doctrines, religious or political, I assume they might fit. 

Evidence - the anti smoking campaign that mysteriously and rapidly invaded American Govt, Corporation and Society began first in Englaid. That story evaporated quickly.

  The "hanging chad" flap also originated in England, a similar thing happened there first.

  And, now, the other shoe drops, whats going to happen to Govt and Economy here in the us is what is going to happen in England/UK, and this story of the 500K will as quickly vanish as frost in the sunlight.

But the mindless drum-beat of the whores like Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan will continue...

  There is a story right now on National Progressive Radio about a Census flap in Germany, courts ruled that people have the right to "informational privacy."

  There may be some defacto effect in political/judicial primacy in Europe outside of codified International law.

  Anyhoo, what has happened, or will shortly happen, in UK with Govt unwinding WILL happen in the US, there is no other choice. Castro has admitted that Socialism doesnt work, just as Merkel has admiotted that multi culturalism with Islam has failed and is wrecking Germany.

  Germany has had certain experience with rampant religious intolerence.

  The same will happen in the US, on a larger scale. Fact- theer is no more money. Worse yet, there is no more CREDIT to operate upon.

Government must unwind. Socialist programs will instantly fail with them, leaving the poor masses huddled around a candle and crust of bread to riot in the streets. France is a precursor, regardless of the cause.

We have TWO YEARS.


Posted by Dave at 1:27 PM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 24 October 2010 1:52 PM PDT
Friday, 22 October 2010
R CONgressional candidate lays violent overthrow on the table
Topic: Constitutional



Republican congressional candidate says violent overthrow of government is 'on the table'

12:00 AM CDT on Friday, October 22, 2010
By MELANIE MASON / The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON – Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden stunned his party Thursday, saying he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if elections did not produce a change in leadership.

In a rambling exchange during a TV interview, Broden, a South Dallas pastor, said a violent uprising "is not the first option," but it is "on the table." That drew a quick denunciation from the head of the Dallas County GOP, who called the remarks "inappropriate."

Broden, a first-time candidate, is challenging veteran incumbent Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Dallas' heavily Democratic 30th Congressional District. Johnson's campaign declined to comment on Broden.

In the interview, Brad Watson, political reporter for WFAA-TV (Channel 8), asked Broden about a tea party event last year in Fort Worth in which he described the nation's government as tyrannical.

"We have a constitutional remedy," Broden said then. "And the Framers say if that don't work, revolution."

Watson asked if his definition of revolution included violent overthrow of the government. In a prolonged back-and-forth, Broden at first declined to explicitly address insurrection, saying the first way to deal with a repressive government is to "alter it or abolish it."

"If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary," Broden said, adding the nation was founded on a violent revolt against Britain's King George III.

Watson asked if violence would be in option in 2010, under the current government.

"The option is on the table. I don't think that we should remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms," Broden said, without elaborating. "However, it is not the first option."



Two critical comments:

1.) The critical text here is not the Constiution as much as the Oath of Office, as I leaf through my Heritage Foundation copy of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemnes, both foriegn and DOMESTIC;"

Apparently everyone except the President makes that oath?

CONgress have committed TREASONOUS ACTS against the United States.

2.) "Modify or abolish" our FORM OF GOVT is the LAST thing we want for two reasons:

a.) the form we were given was given to us by the Founders BY Almighty God. It is the RADICAL LEFT who want to modify and abolish because they are ATHEISTS.

b.) to modify or abolish requires having a well thought out plan to replace the current system with something better. Americans do not have the capacity for rational thought, hammered out through adversity as did the Founders to come up with anything better.

  It is beyond clear we have mass Treason going on in DC, the bums need a-throwing out. Replace them with what, more IDIOTS who have no idea whats in the Constitution. Those screaming about term limits have never read The C.


"My people are destroyed by a lack of knowledge"

Not only are CONgress in mass violations of their sworn duty to the C, but the Separation of Powers has failed also - we have Courts loaded with Socialists, Communists and Marxists. Think they are going to care about redress of grievances unlss its one of their Leftist shills demanding it?

Did anyone notice how quickly and QUIETLY the one who threatened the man from South Park (made derogatory remarks against Islam) came so quickly to PRISON TIME? THe radical Left takes care of its own.

Its not "JUSTICE" - its "JUST US"

  The only viable option is to KEEP our God given system, suffer through enough election cycles to weed out the traitors, give that process 10-20 years to clean out the Courts..

 Which will change naught, because THE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM. Dont Elected Representatives come from the PEOPLE? (not in Obamas case, hes from Kenya)

So, next stop, Civil War.

Posted by Dave at 9:59 AM PDT
Updated: Saturday, 23 October 2010 4:01 PM PDT
Wednesday, 20 October 2010
Poverty map conceals the real damage
Topic: Economy, what's left of

This map indicates two things:

 1.) someone hiding the real economic damage behind manipulated statistics

2.) the entire Nation is headed for the Fed poverty level

Study the white areas in the map closely, See a pattern?


Dont see it? Get a US ATLAS and note where the major freeways run, along with their "no or little population" zones.

Salt Lake City shows up as a "white area" but so do areas SW of SLC. Nothing out there except the Lake, I-70 with a couple National Parks, and a bunch of wild goats. Follow the I-70 corridor down to CA...

In a word, DISASTER

Posted by Dave at 4:28 PM PDT

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