FEDS PLANT PIPE BOMB IN CITIZENS CAR
Topic: General politics
FEDS PLANT PIPE BOMB IN CITIZENS CAR
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101016/ap_on_re_us/us_gps_tracking_warrants#mwpphu-post-form
Realize my following comments are not from some right wing conspiracy theorist cackling about impossible feats such as a satellite reading a chip in someones arm, I CAN DESIGN THIS ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
Lies and misleading statements here:
1.) These so called "GPS tracking devices" are NOT GPS. "GPS" stands for Global Positioning System which uses three or four MICROWAVE signals from orbiting SATELLITES to determine location. THOSE SIGNALS WILL NOT RELIABLY APPEAR UNDER A METAL CAR BODY WITH A RECEIVER TUCKED UP INSIDE.
Microwave signals are PURELY LINE OF SIGHT. Such real devices use cell phone signals (860 MHz) or other similar frequencies that can bounce around under a car, and dont require 3 or 4 SIMULTANEOUS GOOD SIGNALS from a satellite to operate.A cell system can easily triangulate such a device.
2.) There is NOTHING that such a device does that needs
a.) Two units connected by a cable
b.) either unit, if there were two, that would be installed in a ROUND TUBE SUCH AS PIPE BOMBS ARE MADE OF. That round tube would be a circuit designer/packagers nightmare to stuff circuits into, AND IVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.
The rectanguar box with short antenna is sufficient, exactly those devices are Publically sold. The stub protruding from the rectangular unit is a few cm. in length, easily enough to transmit/receive high UHF signals. That stub is NOT a microwave antenna...
Such a system under a vehicle makes a PERFECT receiver.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101016/ap_on_re_us/us_gps_tracking_warrants#mwpphu-post-form
Oil change reignites debate over GPS trackers
By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer Paul Elias, Associated Press Writer –
Sat Oct 16, 2:30 pm ET SAN FRANCISCO – Yasir Afifi, a 20-year-old computer salesman and community college student, took his car in for an oil change earlier this month and his mechanic spotted an odd wire hanging from the undercarriage.
The wire was attached to a strange magnetic device that puzzled Afifi and the mechanic. They freed it from the car and posted images of it online, asking for help in identifying it.
Two days later, FBI agents arrived at Afifi's Santa Clara apartment and demanded the return of their property — a global positioning system tracking device now at the center of a raging legal debate over privacy rights.
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While walking and thinking about what I wrote above, it appears some details may not be clear to you who havent an engineering background, and they are critical... both electrical/RF and political engineering...
1.) The reason the square box tube is favored vs. the round tube for circuit design and packaging is, for a device thats supposed to pick up Sat signals at microwave frequencies, is the antenna. Antennas at such high frequencies are not long things with wires poking out as in a TV antenna, they are, in a flat configuration, a "patch antenna" (google the term). In a round configuration, a microwave antenna could be a long, round tube, but the considerations are this:
a.) patch antennas and round both have high gain, but round are very directional. patch are broader. If the goal was to pick up a moving signal from under a car (the car is moving with respect to the sat signals) the the round will not work. Neither would likely have the gain to pick up a sat signel in any case It is difficult and wasteful to try to cram circuitry in a round tube if the rect. box was the antenna, and conversely, the round antenna would have to be pointed directly at the sat to pick up its signal. SInce there are 3 - 4 sats that must be received, that would mean 3-4 round antennas. Not happening..
2.) political - The Feds are playing off the recently fogotten news of Fahad Shahzal (correct name? NYC "bomber" who didn't have a bomb) to set this poor mark up as the next Muslim bomber. This is a careful tactic in two ways, 1.) to play on peoples psychological tendency to say "oh, not again" and 2.) to play on the "the NYC bomb didnt go off, but this one (a round tube full of C-4) did," and make use of the "slippery slope" (i.e. things are getting worse, we need more Govt /Police power, a convenient play after being found totally incompetent to stop any threats)
Maybe this guy is back on taxes or has pissed off some Fed agency, so hes a good mark. He has a Muslim sounding name, so they chose him to demonize. The round tube is full of C-4 (why the FBI wanted it back SO BAD instead of just ignoring it with no trail of who it belonged to) with an electronic detonating link via the cable (it wasnt a "wire", its a 2 or 3 circuit jack from the photo) and the rect. box is a cell phone receive. Such devices are Internet available. The Feds follow Poor Mark downtown and sit just within the blast radius and when Mark is in the car, call the number and dial a code (detonation must be coded to prevent a wrong number from setting it off) and BOOM , the car vaporizes. Theres nothing left of the device to trace, its vaporized. Or, alternately, if they want to further demonize him and "prove" it was a Muslim conspiracy, they wait until he leaves the car to set it off. Then the show trial begins.
They sit just within the blast radius, not close enough to get seriously injured, but close enough to claim involvement so they can pump the Media full of shit about how bad it was. The Media are always after the angle of what bystanders "feel" so the Feds are conveniently planted right on the scene to program them.
Maybe hes written some emails that could vaguely be interpreted as a threat, pissed off at corrupt Govt like the rest of us Honest Citizens, and maybe they hack his computer and Email account and forge the contents to read something about intent to make a car bomb.
Mark cant prove any of it, and the Courts will, of course, listen to the Feds.
Check under your cars WEEKLY.
Read this http://www.accutracking.com/ Theyre doing false advertising, GPS is NOT CELL TRACKING. GPS = microwave (5 GHz, I believe) cell phones = 860 MHz . Ignorant folk in the Media are neither trained to know such details, nor to ask - they just broadcast the Govt line.
http://www.gpsfortoday.com/cell-phone-gps-tracking/
Correct, some phones do have true GPS capabilities, but most just use triangulation.
Here is a GPS tracker WITH EXTERNAL PATCH ANTENNA. Its blind as a bat underneath the vehicle without the antenna:
http://www.gpstrackingdevices4u.com/covert-vehicle-tracking-p-118.html
GPS instaltion requiring" direct line of sight to the sky."
http://www.gpsvehiclefinder.com/tracking.php?devices=plugandplay
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Being curious, I took this news story with photo to someone with mil explosives expertise. I can claim expertise at the radio and electronics, but my explosives goes as far as firecrackers and an understanding of detonation veolcity.
(Q. Whats the difference between a competent and incompetent explosives Tech?
A About 8,000 Meters per Second. )
Said individual looked at the story and photograph for a few seconds and responded - "THATS A BOMB."
-------- 13 Nov 2010
The cell phone tracking device does not need triangulation to determine location, it only needs a reasonable amount of time in which to receive ONE cell tower.
Cell phone systems contain more or less 3-D maps of their coverage area just with one signal. Ive seen such maps. So dont believe anyone who tries to deceive you into thinking that only GPS can track a vehicle.
Posted by Dave
at 3:01 PM PDT
Updated: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 9:32 PM PDT